“Dwight Schrute is in India!”
These had been the phrases that resonated throughout The Office fan boards and social media teams final week when actor Rainn Wilson posted photos and movies from Dharamshala in Himachal Pradesh on Instagram, sending followers throughout the nation (and certainly, Asia) right into a frenzy.
There was no press, no announcement or no data on why Rainn was right here. Was he vacationing? Shooting for a brand new movie or present? Pretending to be simply one other common vacationer? (Identity theft isn’t a joke, Jim…)
Along with different actors like Steve Carell, John Krasinski and Jenna Fischer, Rainn was on the forefront of the the mockumentary sitcom that ran for 9 seasons between 2005 and 2013 and turned a worldwide phenomenon. The present’s recognition endures even a decade later, and characters like Michael Scott and Dwight Schrute (and their zingers) are the stuff of tv folkore at this time; in a method, it was troublesome for all of the breakout stars to be recognised for his or her roles in different tasks.
John Krasinski and Rainn Wilson in a nonetheless from ‘The Office’
Still, Rainn has loved experimenting with his profession since then, starring in comedies resembling Super (delivering a criminally-underrated efficiency) andWeird: The Al Yankovic Story, and being the voice of Lex Luthor in the DC Animated Movie Universe. Along the best way, he’s additionally turned creator and entrepreneur, whereas being concerned in quite a few causes resembling empowering woman little one training in growing international locations and spreading local weather change consciousness.
In latest years, the 58-year-old has discovered that means in spirituality which led to his bestseller Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution (he himself sees the comical aspect to the man who performed Dwight writing a e-book on the subject), and a spanking new podcast birthed from the identical concept…. which is why he’s in India, maybe?
I put all my journalistic prowess to the take a look at, and simply a few days later, I’m sporting my trusty previous Dunder Mifflin T-shirt, all set to get on a video name with our favorite Assistant (To The) Regional Manager.
Excerpts from a dialog:
Let’s start with what followers of ‘The Office’ all around the world are questioning at present; when did Rainn Wilson come to India and what has he been doing right here?
Well, I’ve been in India for about 12 days and am about to go away now! I used to be flying a bit of underneath the radar, so sadly didn’t get the possibility to satisfy too many followers throughout this journey.
I used to be in Dharamshala for about three days, and acquired to have a session with the Dalai Lama, and additionally meet another fantastic Tibetan Buddhist monks. This is as a result of we had been a part of a delegation that was there underneath the auspices of Harvard University and this division they’ve that research happiness with the nice author and professor, Arthur Brooks. He has been assembly with the Dalai Lama for a few years, and he invited me and Rich Roll (wellness advocate and speaker) alongside as podcasters to expertise the journey. I additionally acquired to interview a Tibetan monk for my new podcast Soul Boom, and it actually was a delightfu and profound journey.
What else have you ever had an opportunity to expertise in India over the past two weeks?
This is my first time in India! I’m right here with my spouse (author Holiday Reinhorn) who had visited locations like Lucknow in Uttar Pradesh earlier to go to among the colleges we assist in India by way of the Mona Foundation (a non-profit organisation that helps grassroots initiatives targeted on training and elevating the standing of ladies and women). So, after we left Dharamshala, we drove to Amritsar as a result of I wished to see the Golden Temple; I’ve some expensive buddies in the United States who’re Sikh. It was so extremely lovely and welcoming, so we visited it twice, as soon as in the morning and then in the night. We additionally took a visit over to the gates on the India-Pakistan border to observe the flag ceremony.
Rainn with his spouse Holiday Reinhorn in India
In a number of interviews, you point out this quote by Jesuit priest Pierre Teilhard de Chardin: ‘We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience,’ and the way it resonated with you deeply when your father handed away a couple of years in the past. Would you say that was the catalyst for the start of this new journey?
A lot of issues occurred throughout COVID that made me wish to write my e-book, and create a podcast out of the concepts in the e-book. Yes, one in every of them was the passing of my father, which occurred proper when COVID began — he died of coronary heart illness — and it affected me very deeply. You summarised superbly what I’ve stated earlier than, however it acquired me considering deeper on a extra spiritual degree about life and dying, and God and religion. I actually felt these are the concepts that the world wants proper now, and it’s hungering for a balm in these very troublesome, violent, tragic instances.
I believed there have been so many various pandemics occurring on the identical time — not simply COVID — and that the remedy is a spiritual one. So whether or not it’s racism, materialism, militarism or the entire totally different earnings inequalities which are afflicting humanity proper now… they require a spiritual resolution, not a political resolution.
That’s the way it all started, and I wish to preserve attempting to have interaction folks in entertaining conversations.
In your e-book, there’s an enchanting thought experiment the place you try to create the right faith by exploring ideas from common religion traditions, and clarify the distinction between faith and spirituality. How has visiting India influenced these beliefs?
So my background is that I’ve been a member of the Baha’i religion since I used to be a toddler, and we’re interested by and welcoming of all totally different religion traditions. So an curiosity in spirituality, faith and religion is one thing that has been a deep and significant a part of my life for a few years, and I’m very open to listening to about totally different paths to spirituality. I’m an enormous admirer of the knowledge custom of the Indian folks; even at this time, I visited The Divine Life Society in Rishikesh to study extra about what they do.
Rainn shares a couple of selfies from his India journey
So many elements of India have significantly touched my coronary heart. I like how the Hindus, Sikhs, Jains and Muslims all worship right here in nice unity and range; it’s been very transferring. In truth, just a bit earlier, I went right down to this lovely aarti by the Ganges. The music was superb with all of the chanting and ceremonies, and I acquired recognised by some Indian followers of The Office, who had been stunned to see Dwight Schrute dancing at an aarti in Rishikesh!
Your podcast sequence on YouTube is just below a month previous and is already a hit, with company resembling actor-comedian Rick Glassman and Creed Bratton, your co-star from ‘The Office’! I’m additionally most excited on your chat with Angela Kinsey (she seems in the promo). Is the concept to faucet into the minds of various folks from totally different walks of life?
Yes, completely. I wish to have a mixture of thinkers and authors, and folks of various religion… and entertainers. So generally it’s going to be actors and stand-up comics, and generally it’s going to be pastors, mullahs, rabbis or non secular thinkers.
The subsequent episode is with Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist and creator, who has simply had a best-selling e-book in the United States referred to as The Anxious Generation. It’s about how smartphones and social media are actually hurting our youth, and he has plenty of scientific information to assist him. That’s a really fascinating dialog as a result of psychological well being is one thing that I’m actually in. It’s an enormous problem in the United States proper now, and a type of pandemics I used to be speaking about.
But what I discussed in regards to the aarti earlier…one thing like that might assist so many individuals with psychological well being points. It’s folks coming collectively, praying, singing and collaborating in one thing bigger than themselves. I actually assume that there are spiritual options to the psychological well being epidemic in addition to psychological ones.; I’m excited to dive into that subject on the podcast.
You stated that you simply spent a number of years on ‘The Office’ largely sad as a result of it wasn’t sufficient, and that regardless of having a profitable TV profession, you had been discontent about not changing into a significant film star. This jogs my memory of Andy’s phrases from the present itself: ‘I wish there was a way to know you’re in the great previous days earlier than you’ve truly left them…’ All this time after the sequence ended, have you ever now found out learn how to cope with these feelings?
Absolutely, I’m significantly better at it now than I used to be 15 years in the past. I spoke about that quite a bit not too long ago, as a result of I had a dialog with BJ Novak, who performed Ryan in The Office. We each admitted that our largest remorse about being on the present was that we didn’t take pleasure in it extra whereas it was occurring. It’s simply the human situation. I used to be given this job that was past my wildest goals, it was an unimaginable group of individuals making a extremely good residing, making a fantastic comedy, attending to be a really profitable actor, and a number of doorways opened for me.
Rainn with B. J. Novak on set
But it was by no means sufficient for me and I used to be typically discontent with myself. And I feel that occurs to folks. I imply, you examine it with people who win the lottery, and they’re depressing as a result of fame and fortune doesn’t assure happiness. So I’ve labored very laborious on it. I’ve been in remedy, and I’ve meditated and studied; I really feel now that I’m significantly better at cherishing each single day that I’ve breath in my lungs.
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Several Hollywood stars have had iconic comedy characters in their repertoire, however Dwight will all the time stand aside in tv historical past; followers love the truth that you continue to carry some a part of him with you. What is the largest lesson you’ve discovered from enjoying such a legendary position?
One of the nice spiritual classes of all time is gratitude for what we have now, and I’m so grateful for the position. Because it was such a superbly written position, very humorous, very human, very advanced, and a lot enjoyable to play. And take a look at all of the doorways that it opened for me!
Dwight allowed me to play a number of totally different different roles, too. People aren’t as conversant in plenty of the opposite roles that I’ve executed, however I’m an actor first and foremost. I acquired to write down a e-book, have a podcast about spirituality and psychological well being, and share that with folks… and The Office followers are the most effective in the world.
During the present’s run, there was all the time discuss of a Dwight spin-off being mooted, however it finally by no means occurred. If Greg Daniels got here upto you at this time and stated he’d found out a method to do that now, would you be sport?
Yes, I’d take into account it… however in a restricted capability, perhaps a Dwight film or Dwight restricted sequence? I don’t assume I may signal as much as do six or seven years extra, however it could be enjoyable to return some day. So we’ll see what occurs.
This is such a clichéd query, however I’ve acquired to ask since everybody has one; what’s Rainn Wilson’s favorite episode of ‘The Office’?
Firstly, I wish to point out how important the Diwali episode is, as I’ve heard from so many Indian American buddies how a lot that episode means to them, and the truth that it acknowledged Indian tradition and heritage. I actually loved filming that.
Rainn Wilson and Steve Carell in a nonetheless from ‘The Injury’
But I feel my favorite episode is The Injury in the second season. That’s when Dwight will get a concussion and Michael burns his foot on the George Foreman grill! It simply had a stupendous mixture of like, coronary heart and silliness. It was enjoyable to get to see Dwight’s persona change the place he truly turns into likable and buddies with Pam. (laughs)
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Finally, in your latest documentary ‘Rainn Wilson and the Geography of Bliss,’ you journey the world to discover what makes some locations happier than others. Fancy coming to India for an episode subsequent?
We are literally working on getting the second season collectively simply now. Oh, I’d completely love to return to India to movie for the sequence. That could be first on my listing. I adore it right here; the meals, the folks, and all of the totally different faiths. I’m so excited that individuals are in a position to watch that present right here.
I can’t wait to return again to India. Thank you for the dialog, and above all, for sporting your Dunder Mifflin T-shirt.
Follow the actor’s podcast at Soul Boom w/ Rainn Wilson on YouTube and @soulboom on Instagram